Constitutional Requirement

I’ve been wondering about something. In 2008 the U.S. Senate declared that Sen. McCain was a Natural Born Citizen and eligible to be President “because” he had two American citizen parents. Why was nothing said about Sen. Obama only having one American citzen parent? Sen. Obama even signed off on the resolution.

I’m at a loss to understand the difference between the requirements for  McCain (who still wasn’t eligible since he was born out of the country) and obama. Can anyone explain this to me since I am just a dumb ole (Natural Born Citizen) country boy?

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6 Responses

  1. Because McCain fulfilled the second of the two criteria listed in this definition. Obama fulfilled the first of the two criteria:

    “Natural born citizen. Persons who are born within the jurisdiction of a national government, i.e. in its territorial limits, or those born of citizens temporarily residing abroad.” — Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition

    The first criterion is birth in the country. The second is birth abroad to citizen parents. You can fulfill one or the other. Notice the OR.

    There is no question about the first of the criteria, birth in the country, being the law:

    “Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are “natural born citizens” and eligible to be President….”—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

    • A Natural Born Citizen is one born of two citizen parents within the country. This was affirmed by the U.S. Supreme Court. That was also the reason the Founding Fathers gave themselves the Grandfather Clause so they could be elected President. Mr. obama nor Mr. McCain match the requirements. Mr. McCain was NOT born on a military base, but in a foreign civilian hospital and Mr. obama does not have two citizen parents. There is not even any proof that Mr. obama was born. His birth certs have been proven to be fake.

  2. Re: “A Natural Born Citizen is one born of two citizen parents within the country. This was affirmed by the U.S. Supreme Court.”

    Sure it was. That is why Black’s Law Dictionary said what it did. Of course Black’s Law Dictionary is part of the evil plot.

    And so is Edwin Meese, Ronald Reagan’s attorney general:

    “Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are “natural born citizens” and eligible to be President….”—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

    And so was the US Supreme Court, and the Wong Kim Ark case was AFTER the Minor vs Happersett case that birthers claim said that two citizen parents are required (and actually, it never said any such thing):

    “It thus clearly appears that, by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the Crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, the jurisdiction of the English Sovereign, and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign State or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born.

    III. The same rule was in force in all the English Colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established.”

    And three state courts and a federal court who have now ruled specifically that Obama is a Natural Born citizen are all part of the plot. Here is one of them: http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=21346

    Here is another: “Based on the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents. Just as a person “born within the British dominions [was] a natural born-born subject” at the time of the framing of the U.S. Constitution, so too were those “born in the allegiance of the United States [ ] natural-born citizens.”— Ankeny v. Governor of the State of Indiana, 916 NE2d 678, 688 (2009), (Ind.Supreme Court, Apr. 5, 2010)

    And of course the US Congress must be part of the plot. It voted to confirm Obama’s election unanimously, meaning that not one single member believed that the US Supreme Court had ruled that two citizen parents are required. And the same with the US Electoral college, none of whose members changed their vote despite a campaign by birthers and two-fers to have them change.

    The Grandfather Clause was to allow Alexander Hamilton and James Wilson, neither of whom were born in the 13 colonies, to be eligible to be president. It was not to allow George Washington, who had been born in one of the 13 colonies, to be eligible. Did you think that the Irish thought that they were British before they got independence from Britian? Well, they didn’t. they thought of themselves as Irish, and the American-born founders thought of themselves as AMERICAN. But they did not think of Hamilton or James Wilson as American because they were not born in America.

    Re: “Mr. McCain was NOT born on a military base, but in a foreign civilian hospital…”

    I don’t have to defend John McCain. He would have been eligible under the second of the two criteria even if he were born in Russia. Still, crazy, the McCain birth certificate that you are referring to, the one that says that he was born in Colon, Panama, was prepared by an ENEMY of McCain. It was introduced by one of the plaintiffs in the Hollister v. McCain lawsuit. McCain says that he was born in the family hospital on the naval base in the Panama Canal zone. (But he never posted his birth certificate himself, which is why some people believe the one that is online).

    Re: “his birth certifs have been proven to be fake.”

    Only by birther “experts,” who have not proven their expertise, or for that matter their impartiality. A judge in Georgia recently stated that he could not find that the testimony of birther “experts” was believable. And there have been many experts who say that Obama’s birth certificate is authentic. IN PARTICULAR, Hawaii, which is the expert on its birth certificates, has never said that there was anything wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, and three Republican officials (and several Democrats) stated that the facts on Obama’s birth certificate are accurate. And this is further confirmed by the birth notices in the newspapers in Hawaii in 1961 (which in those days were only sent to the Hawaii papers by the DOH of Hawaii, and which sent them only for births IN Hawaii).

    The ones who have not proven that they are US citizens are the four Republican candidates for president. Not one of them has shown his birth certificate.

  3. I’m sorry that you are soooo ignorant. But, America did not abide by English law. Our founders followed the “Law of Nations”.

    Mr. obama is Not now nor will ever be eligible for President and anything he signs is null and void.

    Last comment from obots. The truth will prevail!!

  4. COC, You’re arguing with one Obami’s lawyers or occult followers! They are as crooked as he is and unrighteous to the core.

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